Kai Greene the people’s champ and the legend in the sport of bodybuilding has gained a lot of wisdom after spending decades competing and training in the gym.
In the above video, Kai explains that steroids don’t make a champion its hard training dedication and sacrifice that matters more and many Mr. Olympia and other pro athletes use a lot less than average gym junkies.
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He never said your quote though?
It’s true work ethic and diet and genetics play a far more important role. That being said you aren’t gonna be 300lb with abs without taking some shit.
Then why do all the champs use them?
Guess that’s why he ain’t a champion
Na Cause his past is honestly the reason why he never won
As the saying goes….you can’t turn a Chihuahua into a pit bull. You either have the genetics or you don’t.
Bro stop using genetics as an excuse…genetics is how you look not if you’ll get there, don’t be fucking lazy
Patches O’Houlihan lol no he’s right genetics is everything. I can bench to 370 with ease but many others have to work harder than me and may never get there.
Patches O’Houlihan high-five…true dat! ?
Patches O’Houlihan, first off, I’ve competed in numerous shows over the last 25 years as a light heavyweight as well as coached and prepped others. Lazy? Try eating only chicken and broccoli then weight training and doing three cardio sessions a day then come talk to me about being lazy. That being said, genetics is a huge Factor in determining how far an individual will go in the sport. Why do you think that over the last 50 years only a handful of guys have won the mr. Olympia yet there are thousands upon thousands of competitive bodybuilders out there. But hey you’re the expert right?
I guess the truth hurts some people. I for one 100% agree with this statement. You can take 10 grams of test and still look like shit while a guy on 500mg can win nationals the difference being genetics and how you respond to AAS. No ones saying that you cant get in shape with shit genetics just that to be competitive in bbing you really are going to be at a disadvantage against guys with the genes of fucking Adonis coursing through their veins.
Genetics limit you at the top of every sport, strength and physique ones especially. Luckily unless you are disabled there is a sport good for everyone. I suck at any sports needing a ton of speed, endurance or coordination but being 6’6″ with a heavy build makes me pretty good at strongman.
There’s a even older say it’s not the size of the dog in the fight,it’s the size of the fight in the dog.
No doubt genetics and an insane amount of sacrifice and hard work goes into developing a physique on that level, but Kai is seriously downplaying the amount of steroids (and other drugs) needed to get there. Can’t blame him. I would downplay it, too. Still impressive that they are able to get to that level because some people could take a shit ton of gear and never come close (genetics).
There was an experiment: Group 1 worked clean. Group 2 took steroids, but did not work out. Group 3 did work and drugs. #3 had the best results, of course. Who came in second?: #2! You might have a good look, but you will put on more muscle than any other way.. Look in the mirror. Do you look like top pro, except too skinny? All you’re gonna get is the same look you already have, but bigger.
Matk Skyer, exactly!!
Work till ur nuts fall off, once you’ve reached your genetic potential start juicing for comps etc.
Dennis Malich, I think the point Kai is trying to make is that a boatload of drugs isn’t what makes a pro BB. Genetics play the key role. Otherwise, every one that uses would be a pro BB if it was all drugs. Surprisingly, some of them use less than a lot of amateurs. Your receptors will only accept so much. Once they’re saturated, anything above that does nothing more than compromise your health.
Scott, totally agree with you on all of that. He’s just coming across as deflecting a little………
Look at Mark everyone…it’s apparent he does a lot of lifting ?
So this is personal now? Last time I checked , tbere was an inverse relationship between intelligence & time spent in the gym.
Pros use boatloads. I know from the supplement industry
You know from the supplement industry? Who do you know exactly im curious. I know quite a few ifbb pros hell i trained with big jose when i was living in miami and i know for a fact they aren’t using anywhere near what some gym rats use. Number one they get top shelf quality and number two and most important is genetics. They aren’t running 3 grams of test and two grams of tren like you think. They use a considerable amount but compared to what i hear some joe shmoes use i would consider it moderate.
Have you read the shadow pro’s artictle on test nation hes apparently a current pro but for obvious reasons doesnt share his name he claims the avg course for a pro costs about $8,000 for a 16week course when prepping for a show they may not smash as much test and tren as your avg gym junkie but i believe thats only because your avg gym junkie cant afford 20+iu’s of growth a day but yeah i do know lads who compete locally and can take insane amounts for a local amateur show but like ronnie coleman says whatever it takes and to get anywhere in the non natural bodybuilding undustry you have to put a fair amount away look at the size people are putting on in one off season in kuwait i’d love to see what theyre using out there justbout of curiosity more than anything even for people with the best genetics theyre putting insane amounts of weight on in one off season
Haha get a clue.
If one of them uses it to get an edge. All of them have to. This isn’t new folks. Olympics..
They didn’t in his case
Grapefruits made Kai
No, but insulin does
Haha suuure they do kai, sure they do
They dont?….lmao!!!!!!
FUCK….OFF…….KAI….GREENE!!!!!
The “average” gym junkie doesn’t use HGH, IGF1, Insulin, Peptides, etc etc etc, so DON’T you even try to give us that bullshit “Kai Greene”…
Yeah you and ALL the top tier Olympians have ALL THE GENETICS, but don’t for even one second try to convince us that you (& all the others on your level) don’t use EVERY advantage that your wallets and “Personal Contacts” in the industry allows you to have that “THE AVERAGE GYM JUNKIE” simply doesn’t have to try and get yourselves to the top spot in the bodybuilding industry roflmfao……..
Sure.. They take less.. I’ve seen the dosages by a pro.. It’s crazy.. their motto is better to piss some out than to need more of it.. That’s how much they take.. Kai ain’t fooling no body..
Seriously. Excuses.
What does tban even mean?
Alex lifts?
Do u even lift?
Different people need different dosages it’s all in there genetic make up
You have no idea at all dumass
Patty BG.. You have no clue.. So stop being an idiot.
PM & Lizzet M.. Yes I do.. But what’s that got to do about the topic? I don’t see the logic in your question..
Alex Cuevas You sir are an absolute moron.
I’ve been competing for 12 years, I can tell your from experience – it’s ALL genetics. You’re speaking on a topic know nothing about. You’ve never set foot in a gym let alone lived the daily life of a competitor.
I know guys that use 3 times the amount of PED’s I did in my competitive days and looked like absolute TRASH, hardly any muscle at all. The difference between a hard working, consistent pro and a hard working consistent amateur is THE GENETICS – regardless of drugs.
Your shouldn’t speak on subjects that you know NOTHING about, it makes you look extremely stupid to anyone that actually lives the live and knows pros and amateurs.
Mike S.. Buddy I’ve been working out most of my life. I’ve been deep around the gear game.. So shut the hell up.. You know nothing of me you stupid jackass..
The difference is the genetics??? Wtf, so all the pro’s have good bodybuilding genes?? There are a lot of people with good even better genes than those freaky bodybuilders havig good genes (loads of gear)
Even people who don’t lift can have better genes but not using gear!!!
Alex Cuevas No you haven’t. “Gear game” – lol. You’re writing false nonsense. You’re so out of touch with reality it’s hilarious. The funniest part is, I bet you actually believe your own nonsense.
Mike S.. You’re an absolute buffoon.. You have no clue of anything.. You repeat yourself like an insane person. You’re a dumb POS that don’t know shit. Stop trolling you dumbass.. Get educated before someone beats education into you..
Some of you guys look like shit yet you know all the tricks and you know what pros take lol. Buncj of shit bags hahaha
I’ve injected bodybuilders. He us SO FULL OF SHIT. But there will be many blind sheep who will believe him blindly.
Kai Greene is another pro talking shit and the reality is steroids work along with your growth hormones and insulin!!! And you would not be a champion without them period because they work!!! Duh
Ya don’t tell it any straighter than that Danny!! Right on buddy. I believe your word.
Steroids do make the champion because non of these guys would be champion without them. Steroids make you super human (psychology too) and they are a wonder drug. Nothing wrong with doing what it takes to make a living but lets just be honest!
So you obviously know nothing about steroids…lol
I wish they made you super human. And alot of the psychological part is negative.
So i hope you were actually being facetious..lol
Haha your comments shows your ignorance.
They make you super human? Lmfao. I’ve got a buddy on gear I still push more weight than him.
Wonder drug lmao
If it was only that easy ha ha ha ha ha
Just another steroid comment by a dude with his head in the clouds
Ok..superhuman is not literal! Scientist often use the term sybolically when they discuss anabolic steroids because they biologically change you, your body’s ability to repair muscle tissue faster thus become bigger and stronger beyond what you normally could..this impacts your psychological perspective on your ability…
Why do athletes use steroids/PEDs if they do nothing? Come on people!
Jason Ramsey Well, just imagine what would happen if you did the right gear?
Zilka Saunders Somebody gets it.
So you are stating that if I get me some steroids I can become superhuman and win comps
No sir.
Omg..superhuman..you are so off base
Most of them would have quit training after a few years without using steroids. Why did they start using them? Because the results were not good enough?
Multiple pros turned pro without ever touching a drug. Do your research and stop talking out of your ass.
Guys like Kai would be far superior to any Joe Shmoe that took boat loads if drugs, FACT. Where do you people come from and where do you get this ridiculous logic?
If they did, they came in last as pros.
They all take steroids yet only certain ones win. Take the steroids away from everyone and the playing field is still level….the same guys will still win.
Mike Strutz Go back and look at Kevin Levrone videos when he was training natural; he was just an average joe but once he put the juice to work, he turned into the incredible hulk! Kai would be just another guy without PEDs!
Gym junkies probably have pretty diluted stuff in comparison. Still if you see those bodybuilding forums though, its scary.
“pro bodybuilders use a lot less than the average gym junkie”
That’s funny because the gh guts I see say otherwise, Kai.
Not to mention y’all don’t even worry about buying supplements and budgeting for nutrition, why wouldn’t yall be more into gear? If you even have to pay for that.. idk. I just know that was a jackass statement.
Hgh isnt steroid
https://youtu.be/aABeGASYvpk
Didn’t Kai get busted an airport with 15 grand in steroids. Or was that somebody else lol
To all those bodybuilders out there saying they use very little and that they look the way they look because of genetics there is only one answer: Go fuck yourselves you fucking liars.
yeah right
yeah ok what ever Kai says. ask him to stop the drugs and he wont e en have energy to fart. he is the one that abuses the most!
if steroids and hgh…and insulin…and clen…and dnp….wernt needed pro bodybuilders and all us wannabe’s wouldnt touch them….and think about why do all top ranking bodubuilders all look the same….because they all use the same protocol….
1 gr. Test a week is not much.
But helps a lot
It’s true!
Of cause they do. Try doin it without them. Take away all gear they wouldnt get near. Fact
Less?! Very doubtful. The Pro are probably more skilled in their useage. But I doubt that it’s less
Kai Green shut up mate you take a lot of steroids and insulin that’s why you are bigger …You want make us a fool …Rich Piana was the only one that always tell the true about steroids…You are a natural bodybuilder
Because the more steroids make you bigger. If that were the case bostin loyd would be on the pro stage
Hey Kai name me a Mr Olympia or a Arnold Classic champion who didn’t take steroids or etc cocktails!! Yah i thought so
Even Arnold admitted of taking steroids in one of his interviews
He didn’t say they don’t take them, he said less then people thinl
Nick Youngblood. Bullshit
Quenton Nankivell..bullshit
Patty Battreall Garber show Me the proof.
Yeah…. bullshit they take less
Tj Carson
This is wrong information. Bodybuilders just know what to use, when to use it and when to not use it for drug testing. Shoulder acne gets edited out of pictures and you can also inject other chemicals to reduce side effects.
And also why do professional female bodybuilders have better beards than me and deep voices? Normal women that go to the gym don’t get that!
Steroids or not you still have to put in the work it’s not a miracle drug
Hahaha bullshit
Wilson Rosales my reaction to this
Jorge Rivera ?
They use insulin, and Gh. That’s why they are all pregnant. From Dex, to Ramy. All have detention.
Hes full of shit
He is right, he should know…he didnt become mr olympia
Travis right. Because Joe Schmo takes more than you but yet you’re a giant. Right on Kai. I’ll throw the notion that you take $60K of it a year right away.
Alan Johnson Jesse Dixon what a liar!!!
If steroids don’t make “champions”, why does every “champion” use them?
Misleading rant: Steroids take the best “clean” physiques and make them the best pros . You look like crap? You’ll just become bigger crap.
The reason NO ONE IN HISTORY looked liked Kai until the last few years is NOT because they didnt work as hard.!
And that’s why you’re an idiot and a bad ambassador for the Sport.. Talking about steroids not taking an average joe to Championship status. Be honest and talk about a Champion caliber athlete taking steroids to reach Championship status. For a champion caliber athlete not to take steroids would be like farting in a Hurricane, no one would notice or smell it!
True ??
When I fart in hurricanes it stinks still
Cuz you’re a juice head!
All he’s saying is steroids isn’t the end all be all. There is more too it than that
He’s saying that Stsroids don’t make champions then uses the average person as an example. It’s an ignorant argument.
He’s right it doesn’t
Shut your simple ass up Jared. Is an average person Champion caliber? Can roids alter and modify talent? If a talented person took steroids would it be the same as an average person with no talent? Would steroids assist in bringing a talented person to his/her max potential if that was their goal?
It all depends on the drive of the talent person opposed to the untalented. What you think if you have talent pop some steroids and don’t work on your craft you just become the man? Think that was what he was getting at. Yes if a talented person such as a Barry bonds takes roids he’s gonna be ridiculously good. But it comes down to what the talented guy puts into it
Of course roids alter and modify talent but again you got to work for it just doesn’t magically happen. All body builders juice their heads off but the muscles just don’t appear when the poke themselves. I would say 80 percent of it is diet workout and discipline. Then the juice makes up the 20 percent
I knew you were gonna come back with this bs. That’s why I stated, if their max potential was their goal. Read sucka!
Well then sure you write is fucking broken English hard to understand where you are going
Grapefruits do
More mass. …Less circulation. A brachialis Stays Same and gets comprimed through useless musclevolumes
They may not make a champion in, and of themselves…but they do offer the potential to be a champion that otherwise wouldn’t be.
Justin Richardson
:’)
You all are a bunch of idiots. He is right because real bodybuilders use minimal dosages and maximize gains. We don’t USE more steroids to get bigger we lift heavier, eat more calories, and sleep more. Steroids is a tool to recover faster NOT GET BIGGER. It’s all diet.
Pros dont have the finacial problem like gym rats do. Anyone who is a professional in any trade makes hella crazy money. So they can pay for food and supps with no problem. Theyre more dedicated cus its their job to get as big as possible, thats what theyre paid to do.These pros are sponsered by supp companies and im quite sure they get free supps most the time. This is all they do everyday. Gym rats have have jobs and lives outside of bodybuilding and some dont make enough to get the foods and supps they need so they shoot up. Its cheaper that way. Not knockin on them but thats how it is
Actually that’s not really how it is. If they can’t afford to eat right, they can’t afford gear. And if they had the gear and their diet was shit, “shooting up” isn’t gonna get them anywhere. Pros don’t all get paid, only the top few get endorsements. It’s not really the glamorous life ppl tend to think it is.
Most pro bodybuilders aren’t too well off financially, honestly. A few top pros might make all their money from endorsements and contest wins, but most of these guys work 9-5 jobs. Most of us can name top pros that are financially destitute and living in pretty lousy housing, too . It’s about priorities.
Thats right.????
Matt Sweeney agreed…I’ve heard this is why many pros have turned to prostitution in the past..Just youtube Dark Side of Bodybuilding..
Perfect
You’re an idiot. Everything you just said was completely false. I personally know many pros that work 9-5, unless you’re a top 5 Olympia guy – these supp companies give you DICK!
I worked 9-5 almost my whole Bodybuilding life! I did Nationals and maybe could have turned pro but decided to stop. If you’re smart, good isn’t that much and the drugs are cheap AS FUCK. Do your research, before you talk about things you know nothing about.
Lmao SCHOOLED
Danny Munson happens to some idiot, daily.
You can take so much steroids it would kill an average bull and still look like shit if your genetics suck…if you can`t build a good physique without em you`ll never be a champion WITH them.Be realistic…
Stfu Kia. You sound like a bumbling idiot.
Stfu yeast infection^^
He’s right. However, if you don’t put in the hard work, eat right, and explore your genetic potential to it’s max and use the right stack cycled correctly, all the PED’s in the world are not going to get you up on that podium.
Steroids are not magic. Bodybuilding is an all consuming way of life. Training as hard and heavy as you can, nutrition and rest. Steroids don’t make it easier or magically pop muscles onto you body.
Of course it makes it easier. Doesn’t take any less effort or hard work. However it makes it easier to pack on more muscle.
It makes it easier to put them on but way waaaaay harder to keep them. Also when u on gear u need to watch your diet more carefully. If you want to be healthy on it you need to forget about eating shit. Less cheatmeals or you can end up with gyno, water renention etc. People say its rented muscle and I say its bullshit. You can do one 3-4months cycle and never take gear again and you can keep most of your results for years (then natural thing happens that with age you have less and less muscle) Its easy for those idiots that do it to pump up and lose it all after going off but harder for those that have some knowledge about trt and pct. Its simple. Also there was documentary in which even doctors were saying that roids are less dangerous than drinking alcohol daily. You take roids daily too if you want to counter my argument.
It isn’t magic. You need to put a lot of efford into everything you do either you on or off. Sometimes i can say that you need to put more effor when you on. You need to train harder, eat more, ok you can rest less but actually rest stays the same if you smart so 8hours of sleep etc. On gear everything doubles up even the things you need to do. If you diet and train like a natty even if you on shit ton of test you can be sure that you wont gain a lot. You will but not even 50% of what you can get with hard work.
Yeah
Says the guy with a bigger gut than people with four times his bodyfat…
Yea, Ok.
A lot less my ass. The average pro open class bodybuilder spends about 20k per month on roids. Gtfoh Kai
Steroids alone won’t you get bigger you have to take it along with the large amount of food that they eat, if you take steroids and eat 3 meals a day you will never get massive, you will gain a little muscles but you would never be able to compete as a pro, and those are the facts.
The only reason i would believe this is because the top pros are the elite 1% in genetics , so they dont need much to go the extra level.
The top pros in 1949 were also the elite 1%. Compare, and you can see exactly how much difference drugs make.
Thats true
BS. the entire billion dollar supplement industry is getting chumps to spend hundreds of dollars a month buying pre workout, a minor, post workout, herbs. Etc. Total scam, if you don’t have adequate hormone levels it doesn’t matter how hard you train and diet.
Kai is true. I have seen a lot of athletes taking drugs, often the same drugs with the same dosages. Some of them became Champions, some others became avarage bodybuilders, some others remained the avarage Joe who doesn’t even lift. Genetics is everything. As for the dosages, also, Kai is true. Believe it or not. It’s like sayin’ I can run as fast as Usain Bolt with a pill. I won’t and I will never because my legs are short and my muscles are not made to work that fast. Amateur bodybuilders are too often dreaming to be like a Pro even though they will never be. Just my two cents
We must be honest here, it is true steroids alone will not make a champion as far as bodybuilding is concerned, but neither will hard work alone, it is the combination of the 2 together that will make you a Mr Olympia champion,
Take a look at a lot of bodybuilding champions when they are on steroids versus when they retire. Most of these guys still go to the gym and workout hard, just subtract the roids. They inevitably look like normal guys that workout. I don’t dispute genetics , but I’m also not stupid. A good point of comparison would be looking at pro athletes in other sports. Top of the line athletes, elite genetics, best training and nutrition; but none of those guys look anything at all like a pro bodybuilder.
Craig Dyson
I guess that’s why Kai never won it…
“Getting huge and muscular eating salad ” by Kai Green
This is the stupidest thing he’s ever done…well actually when he screwing a grapefruit on camera might trump this.
Everyone knows that you cannot seriously compete in Bodybuilding unless you juice. It makes no sense to deny or down-play it’s necessity…yeah, everyone’s talking about genetics and hard work but it’s genetics hyped on steroids that allows the champions to work as hard as they do…without the steroids, it’s a different industry…we all know it so stop it!
It’s just that Champions give steroids a bad name
Yea ok Kai…we believe that one. Lol
Ouch!!!!!
Jake Whitemy mind is stronger than steroids
Mother Nature hasn’t improved the human physique from 1965, when Larry Scott won the 1st Mr. Olympia to 2017 with Mr. Phil Heath winning Mr. Olympia; nor has the lifting techniques in bench pressing , leg presses, dumbell curls, improved to change their bodies thus so, let’s be honest Just compare the bodybuilders’ physiques, each decade, the only conclusion in the freakish improvements are drugs.
Exactly
Drugs and dosages. Back in the day there was nothing like hgh, peptoids etc. Also Top tier bodybuilders take around 1000-5000mg per week since avarage gym goer takes 200-1000 (with time even over 1000) He is right they train way harder than others. Their life sums up around only training, eating resting etc. So they do almost only this. The more you take the harder you need to train and more you need to eat.
Are we implying that some steroids are ok? Or that a certain dosage is ok? Scott used Dianabol, and although he used less than modern guys, he almost surely used more than he admitted to. Check the really old-time Mr Universes, some of them looked more like swimmers.
It’s not the harder you NEED to train, it’s the harder you CAN train.
Kai Greene and about 99% of the rest of the professional builders, routinely lie that training alone is responsible for their freakish, abnormal development, not chemicals. That being said, all of the pioneers of professional bodybuilding used chemicals, including Larry Scott; but the difference is that today’s bodybuilders are flat out negating the chemical factors, and promulgating that they are virtually natural, and that training is 97% responsible for their success, therefore they have to be taking 10x’s the amount of drugs and chemicals that people like Larry Scott used. If you doubt what I’m saying, compare the size difference between Larry Scott and Jay Cutler.
Steroids were legal back in Scott’s day. Admitting too much now can put you in jail.
It won’t get you arrested unless law enforcement can catch you breaking the law buying steroids, growth hormone, insulin, and whatever else they are taking illegally; for example if I tell you that I smoke crack cocain every day, for 20 hours, that’s not enough evidence to incarcerate me for a drug offence. You need a prescription from a doctor, to do all of those chemicals I listed legally; and you and I both know that no doctor who values his license would do that.
Obviously. But publicly admitting you break the law greatly increases tbe chances that you will be caught.
To be a champion u have to fuk grapefruits all day everyday like Kai the fukin weirdo ahha
Your twin ???
Lol!!
Tanvir Ahmed Khan
Shabz Khan
Kai Greene like most of them lie through their teeth, Kai Greene doesn’t bench press any different that Sergio Oliva or Arnold Schwarzengger, Squatting 600lbs today isn’t any different than Squatting 600lbs 50 years ago, again, Nature hasn’t changed the human body in thousands of years. Therefore, it’s the chemicals that makes Kai Greene who he is today. If Larry Scott had back in the 1960’s what these guys have today, the he would’ve been just as big.
Kai c’mon Brother we all know what is all about…Discipline/Diet/Sleep/Workout/Steroids…Cliche that I had to Type again! God Bless
So Kai really saying he uses less gear than a gym junkie. Thanks KAI but we all knew you use them. ♂️
John Placido
What he is saying is that YES it takes steroids and other enhancements to get to that level, but not just anyone can achieve that with taking them.. you gotta have the work ethic and genetics
This guy
Steroids make champions! But only if you put in the hard work and the eating . I agree with put in the hard work first until you reach your natural genetic peaks. Then with the addition of the right steroid combination it will carry you to the next level. But that next level requires just as much hard work to get to the championship level. That is what kai is talking about.
Bullshit!!!!!
Xavier Kvalic
If you could go to the drugs or the genetics store, you would pick the genetics store every day of the week. You need both though
Champions make steroids ♂️
Ignorant ^^
Cough…..Bull Shit.
No Steriods No Pro Olympia status.
Know Steriods Know
Olympia status
What does Kai know about being a champ?
It’s true, everyone would win the Olympia if all you needed was steroids. Genetics decide who’s champion
I remember a video by Rich Piana about this stuff…Pros he said are spending at least 2000$ a month on drugs…I can’t imagine the average gym junkie doing this..
Lol
Really Mason?I’ll take your word for it dude.lol
FAKE NEWS !!
Will Smith
Ha ha ha ! What a fucking liar ! I’ve seen the dosage of several pros and they take in one day what your “average gym junkie” takes in a week or even two ! Ha ha ha, what a dishonest prick !
The old steroids don’t make a champion line , heard it many a time Kai
What a load of shit.
He is so full of bullshit
The lies Kai tells…
Arshie Mussa
Biggest pile of shite iv ever read…
Truth
The video says steroids don’t make champions then proceeds to show a full set of pictures of people who look normal before taking gear then became the top of their industry/sport after it. I don’t see the point of this video.
Right you also need insulin and growth.
Growth hormone abuse is obvious, they use a lot more than you know. A whole 10cc bottle of test a week, along with other drugs and growth hormone, these are common dosages that have right from a pros mouth, Kai , stop talking.
Other guy full of bullshit. Typical among bodybuilders.
So why don’t he just get off a provide clean urin and blood for a year to prove what he is saying
Course not kai it’s the bcaa’s you drink
Without steroids most of the top bodybuilders would have quit after a few years of training. What is the reason why they started? Right, because the results were not good enough.
Hey Kai go f**k a watermelon
High-level pro champs are born with the “right” skeletal proportions & muscle shape, tendency to easily put on muscle, and tendency to store fat in & under muscle instead of under the skin. To actually be the champ, they eat massive calories, work incredibly hard, take steroids, HGH, & insulin, take diuretics before the show, and “fix” flaws with locally injected fillers. Look at guys from 50 years ago and you’ll see their muscles “pop” when going from relaxed to contracted. Today’s guys *look* contracted ALL the time. Obviously they can’t literally be contracted ALL the time. Fair to conclude some fakery going on. Oh well, it’s just a cosmetic event anyway:^)
It used to be about PROPORTION. Now we crown guys with 23″ upper arms and 17″ calves.
Yeah cause the average gym person uses a gram of tren per week. Makes sense
Hey Kai, stop taking them lets see how you look off them, lol
Bull shit
Less than the average gym guy, not a fucking chance lmfao
Yeah right!
Robert Lambrelli
Yet phill H claims to be natural
Yah!!! Right
this guy is so full of BS. please, all these guys do heavy cycles. 600 mg of cypionate test per week, at least. sostenon, deca, and more. Kai is a mass of muscle because of gh, igf1, insulin, and roids.