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Steroids and Bodybuilding are two words that have gone hand in hand for a long time. And that’s a shame – as there is so much more behind the pain, effort, and dedication that bodybuilders commit to every day.
If you let Phil Heath tell it, steroids will not make a champion bodybuilder. Even if you were taking the performance enhancers it’d make no difference in gaining enough muscle and definition to become a talented professional bodybuilder. There’s much more to the pro stage than having the massive bulk or being extremely shredded.
Take a look at this exclusive behind the scenes footage with the Olympia champion himself.
It’s hard work day in day out
I understand what Heath is saying and I agree steroids do not a champion make. Having said that instead of trying to change the narrative and excuse Away by mentioning other sports and all this psychobabble bulshit go ahead and take ownership of his p e d use. They do not a champion mate but they absolutely don’t hurt in the making of a champion. If he feels that strongly then finish out his career without the use of PEDs. Go ahead and make the case for his b******* explanation.
Did he mention having a bubble gut,that’s key
How about …If everyone came off of PED’s and got tested…he would still be the champion amongst everyone.
Why? Mostly bc of his genetics.
Who gives a flying ef how admits and who doesn’t. If you choose to take them..great and if you don’t great!!
If this comment is that dress towards me I get it. I was a professional bodybuilder myself. I may feel Heat fan. The point is not whether he’s taking roids or not. If he’s going to do a long diatribe and narrative about genetics and about what people think and say then he should complete that diatribe with a complete facts and that is for him and everyone at that level is not just genetics and hard work. If it was two corn one of his favorite phrases but all those people competing at that level and Below would not be taking the chemicals. And whether he would still be winning the mr. Olympia’s is a hypothetical just like any other if. That is something neither you nor I can say definitively because prior to his bodybuilding career he was just an average struggling along mediocre college basketball player. He’s not the only one with genetics but for some reason 100% of them at that level are taking everything that they can afford and get their hands on. It is what it is.
People tend to forget that genetics includes responsiveness to drugs. So even if you took drugs out of the equation it doesn’t necessarily mean that the current champions would remain the same. Some of the guys at the top may in fact be hyper responders to drugs. Take that factor away from everybody and they may no longer be at the top.
Larry Mitchell you say what others are afraid to say… amen brother. He’s a special athlete yes… but PED are vital to this sport…
Evan Godbee you win the internet
You are absolutely correct Evan
Sure but stop them for a yr and get back to us with pics 😉
He’d still be larger than you ?
Ok Preston ?…hes bigger than both of us mate
Lots of people are larger than me, I’m not worried about it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
So whats the point of your comment ? Im bigger that you too but im not having a go at you am i ? Are you denying steroids dont allow him to be so massive? Hard work.. diet but with no gear hed be 50kgs lighter
Why do people even give a shit on who’s on and who’s not on?!
Do you care who the ef does crack and who doesn’t? Who drinks and who doesn’t? Who smokes and who doesn’t?
Genetics will determine for the majority of the time…. natural bodybuilders and or non tested.
Indy 500 race comps all have modified cars! Is that considered cheating? It’s allowed! So is ifbb bodybuilding shoes. It’s allowed to do PEDS. It’s not cheating.
Genetics will always prevail
That’s the dumbest fucking comment I’ve read
So being massive makes an Olympia champion now?
What’s your max deadlift and squat cupcake
Harry i never said its cheating and i dont have an issue at all with them taking gear as its a level playing feild ! Every pro athlete uses PEDS …its the steroids dont make a champion remarks that i find annoying ….id post a pic of Lee Labrada or Flex Wheeler and youd see how small they were and had terrible genetics as are ectomorphs ..but yrs of gear helped them over come that 😉
Genetics are NOT fixed by AAS ?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PVP_h2nqnMQ
Educate yourself. You can get on the same cycle as Phil and you’d never come close.
Clearly they are 😉 have a look at those guys i mentioned
“Without steroids he wouldn’t be so massive”
Want a cookie?!
I agree but neither would he without his cycles 😉 would he ??
Did you know bullets are placed into chambers of firearms to fire? Did you know tables are used by many to eat their meals on? Did you know ink is used to write on parchment? Did you know electricity can cause death? Did you know goats milk comes from goats?
Your so worked up mate …get on Aromisin your a big bitch right now bud ?
Preston why are you making this personal? You’ve completely missed the point being made here
“Genetics are NOT fixed by AAS ?”
^ except you’ve ignored that responsiveness to steroids is genetic. Hence in a way they are sometimes “fixed” by drug use. That is someone who would look terrible naturally can be a hyper responder to drugs and end up looking incredible.
Spot on Evan ….im simply saying without PEDS and lots of them you cant look like a pro bodybuilder.
Preston Murray So whats your point? If Phil didnt take steroids, he wouldnt get close to winning a Mr.O.
Who would then? You guys.
Never answers my questions about that deadlift and squat boy
So evan, someone with bad genetics will have a chance at a Mr O against someone with great genetics because of gear?
Nah bruh.
Also…talking shit about gear when I can spot every one of you who even on trt dosages? Seriously?
Im not your boy son ?. …and are we talking powerlifting now or bodybuilding since you want my pbs ?
Preston Murray no shit. I’m pretty sure Robert knows that lol
Preston Murray why should he? He looks very good and he doesn’t know u from a hole in the wall. And if u knew anything about “bodybuilding”, you’d know that their focus isn’t solely on the amount of weight lifted, so who gives a crap what his numbers are, his pics are still going to look the same. Those numbers are for power lifting/strongmen.
Preston Murray well of course. He already cheated. Maybe if you used you could bring those lagging arms up to par.
Harry Verijas genetics and hard work
Preston Murray we were talking about body building. If you are big it don’t matter what your squat or dead PRs are. How much do you get for every pound you lift?
Robert Zurobski agreed, no one is big without gear
Ironically Scott my numbers are good and i have a spondylitis of L5 am 40 and not on gear but hed probably lie anyways and as you said you dont need huge weights to build muscle …every group has a Preston sadly and judging by his 200kg deadlift for a much younger guy he isnt as strong as he thinks anyway ?
“So evan, someone with bad genetics will have a chance at a Mr O against someone with great genetics because of gear?”
^ sorry did I say that? No I didn’t. I said that responsiveness to steroids is genetically determined and so someone who is a current champion might not be at the very top without the gear if gear were taken away from everyone. But way to miss the point completely by taking my example to the extreme … brah.
Preston Murray stop trying to measure your dick here, captain douchebag.
Stwroids dont make a bodybuilder champion but a body builder cannot be a champion without them! No one can complete at the championship level without using…just a fact.. He skips that part but then again almost everyone in this industry skips thst part so….
If you removed all PEDs off planet earth the people winning now would still be winning
That may or may not be true…we can never know that…sooo many factors! If they can’t get their bodies to respond so quickly and directly, would they work as hard? If the muscles didn’t repair as fast, the strength of some could be different than others, could be harder to show the benefits of genetics..it is absolutely true that while everyone is doing it, everyone has to…that doesn’t necessitate that if no one was doing it then the pecking order would still be the same
Genetics is what will play the major role. I’ve seen guys with awful back / chest / shoulder genetics on or off gear, they’d never ever win.
Preston it is not all genetics. Some individuals are called “hyper” responders to PED’s. That means regardless of genetics some people can get big off of androgens. Doesn’t mean that their shape will look nice.
Preston Murray not exactly true, because then you’d have thousands more attempting competitions. These would be people who’ve chosen not to poison their body, or for whatever the reason they don’t juice and stay natural. So people would be more inclined to give shows a shot or attempt a career at it. But if it were just the pros who stopped taking PED’S, the order of the top 10 Olympia probably stays about the same
BEING BIG DOES NOT WIN A MR OLYMPIA TITLE
Why do you think this way? What causes you to ignore all the other competitors are larger than Mr O? Do you see a guy larger than you in the gym and automatically think “well he’s probably on steroids”
If you do, please don’t go to a gym.
Google Jeremy Buendia.
Look at all of his competition this year. Being big gets you no where. You have the genes and work ethic or you don’t. Having one without the other will not get you a title. End of story.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PVP_h2nqnMQ
Please watch his entire series. You really need to understand what PEDs do. I don’t need a lecture on AAS thanks.
Politics got him the win this year , looked like a water balloon ?
You made the most salient point when you say having 1 without the other will not get you a title. Every time someone mentions thst pro’s need steroids, many want to jump in about the hard work and dedication. It’s a given they they have to work hard, and also a given that their hard work won’t get them there without steroids…and it’s not just the champions that use….all pro competitors do, so it’s not just about winning. The level at which bodybuilders present is only possible with steroids. Attempts to talk about how accomplished a pro builder is has to include steroid use. Stating that every competitor would be in the same position if no one used is just more denial that steroids matter. At this stage, when amateur competitors use, it seems this ridiculous disclaimer would be a thing of the past. They all use. Using matters just like their work matters. We all know it. What is the point of repeated stories on the issue.
Yup!
Phil Heath is full of shit.. go rub your belly
Yea, but you can’t be a champion bodybuilder withoit it either lol. Hell, even just steroids aren’t enough these days with them doing growth, insulin and others. These guys can’t compete in the top ranks (Olympia) without these drugs now and that’s fact.
But you can’t compete with the top guys unless you’re on them,?
From experience. All roofs do is going you the motivation to want to see more results faster. They absolutely will not make you a champion in its own. There are people out there who don’t even lift and look better than some better I know who have juiced.
I like your comment, I’ve always felt one of the biggest edge guys get from juicing, has to be the motivation factor. Let’s see how motivated a juice head can stay when coming off of it, and tell him he can never take them again. End result???. That’s why you’ll see those guys that 9 months ago looked huge, and now ur looking at them and laughing going, oh, I had a feeling u were on gear.
The other huge advantage is the recovery process, it’s much quicker so u can easily hit body parts 2x a week. It’s simply cheating, but for pro athletes, they have to, and I totally get it. But, for a regular guy in the gym? It’s silly, but I get why they do it, and they can do what they want…it’s their own bodies. Just own up to the fact that ur taking them, most keep it quiet or deny it, I wonder why?
You are taking it too far. No one gets big without gear
Scott Jacobsen what do you mean? You saying you can’t grow with out it? Is that what you actually mean?
Bullshit
David Potkonjak Harrison Sappey
…Yes they will.
Is that not like the sole purpose of steroids?
Well if you want to reach Mark McGuire Status in baseball you gotta run the gear. Its no different here.
That’s a lot of juice to the ass!
What ever it takes to be a champion.
Nope but does make u more competitive to compete with the ones on the big stage
I mean, he can name the last time there was a champ that didn’t use steroids? I’ll wait.
Nah but find me an Olympia contender that’s not on juice. Oh that’s right, they don’t exist
Than get off and see if you win next year.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, there is no Olympian that hasn’t done them, so yes, steroids build champions.. Sorry Phil. Take none.. NONE, for a year and see if you lift the Sandow. Even with all that base muscle, you wouldn’t even come close. Its fuckin dishonest, period
Champions are born with the “right” body proportions, tendency to store fat in & under the muscle instead of under the skin, mostly fast-twitch fiber, long muscle bellies, relatively small joints. They deserve no credit for that. They need a good work ethic, for exercise & strict dieting. That’s the ONLY thing they deserve credit for. All that said: NO pro can win without HEAVY drug use.
Well guess what dick, neither will genetics and hard work. Been around gyms for 35 yrs. yet to see anyone truly big who was natural, let alone a champion.
Quit bitching about Phil not openly speaking about steroids. That would jeopardize all his sponsorships and tarnish his professional reputation. He has kid(s?) and a wife. I’m sure he wouldn’t like his children finding footage of him openly speaking about drug use some day. He is supposed to be a champion and the face of the sport. It’s no secret bodybuilders use PEDs but that doesn’t mean it needs to be spoken about.
WRONG! EVERY SINGLE MG MUST BE TALKED ABOUT !! BUT IFBB’S LAST DRUG TEST ON MR OLYMPIA WAS 1991 !!! EVERY SINGLE CONTENDER WOULD FAIL… AND I WOULD TAKE THE TITLE !!!! 😀 😀 😀
ROLE MODELS FOR KIDS NEVER TAKES STEROIDS. THEY GIVE KIDS IN ADVICE TO LOVE AND WORSHIP JESUS CHRIST, FIRST OF ALL… STAY AWAY FROM WOMEN AND DRUGS IS MY LINE 😀 <3
Ole porkchop eatin ass nigga!
That is 100% true. But I’d like to see him do it naturally. Or any past Mr. O for that matter. Wont happen without the juice. It takes you beyond the threshold
Fuck I’ve seen this article posted about 384947282 times
But it will help a lot ..
We all know he’s on em, big deal.
Yes. Yes, they will. Otherwise Phil would have a regular job. It may be only part of the whole, but it is required 100%.
THIS MUST BE THE BEST VIDEO CLIP I EVER HEARD PHIL HEATH IN… TRUE FOR REAL… BUT I TOOK 1985 NATURAL MR AMERICA IN 189 POUNDS AT 6 FT 2… IT WAS TRULY ENOUGH THAT YEAR… BUT NOT IN 2017 — FRANK ZANE DID IT AT THE SAME WEIGHT ON 1977 MR OLYMPIA… AND HE WAS NOT NATURAL…
Pretty sure natural contests didn’t exist in 1985
Evan Godbee ALMOST TRUE. IT STARTED 1984, BUT THE SPONSORSHIP WAS VERY WEEK, AND MANY GUYS DID NOT SHOW UP… THAT WAS GREAT FOR ME, BUT THE TRUTH IS: NO ONE COULD BEAT FRANK ZANE IN 1977 (EITHER) WHEN HE WEIGHED 189 PONDS JUST LIKE MYSELF (YET 5 FT 7)… BUT DRUGGED UP… 😀
Can there be any body who can look like this without taking any steroids,PEDS?
I look real good look my pics on my gym pics 23all nat and i dont even conoet or try real hard
It will definately help u on your way!!
Well stop taking them then
Fuck phil heath lets see someone new
He forgot to mention that it wil grsntly help to improve one.
I see the point and in some ways he is right…. but: if they do not use steroids they can forget to challenge 🙂
This whole debate is stupid , if the steroids dont make the champion then try doing it without. Yes genetics and all that but bodybuilders need to man up and admit that drugs are as much a part of their success as hard work and genetics.
True but you also won’t be competitive without them. Not bashing them by the way.
You can’t be the biggest, the strongest, tbe fastest, or the most enduring in your chosen sport without the appropriate drugs.
Without it you wont even be on a stage ;-))
yeah but they all take em Phil. prove your the best and go drug free
He’s right.
Ask Kevin levrone that, when he’s small
That’s one small dude , that gets massive
A gut will??
That’s a totally true statement but without them you will never be a champion body builder ethier