Joe Rogan and Derek of More Plates More Dates joined hands for an eye-opening conversation on performance-enhancing drugs. On December 6, 2024, they discussed trenbolone causing people to become ‘ultra-violent,’ and the consequences behind President Biden’s decision to spearhead an anti-steroid campaign.
Since its inception, steroid use has sparked controversy, with athletes from various fields turning to these substances to build muscle, enhance aerobic capacity, or boost endurance, despite the risk of unwanted side effects.
In professional bodybuilding, steroids have been utilized for decades as athletes aim to present their best and biggest physiques to date. The use of such compounds, including trenbolone, has caught the attention of podcast host Joe Rogan alongside PED guru Derek of the More Plates More Dates YouTube channel.
Joe Rogan, Derek MPMD Discuss Tren’s ‘Ultra Violent’ Reputation and President Biden’s Impact on Steroid Laws
Rogan said he’s had friends from jiu-jitsu take trenbolone and it caused them to become ultra-violent.
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“Tren is something that the craziest of people that I know have taken, including like jui-jitsu guys that really want to get super jacked, they take tren. And I’m like, what is it about the tren? And they apparently get like ultra-violent when they’re on tren,” says Rogan.
Derek of MPMD provided some background information on trenbolone, revealing that President Biden spearheaded a campaign to classify steroids as controlled substances.
“Yeah [trenbolone], so it’s a unique compound, it used to be used to be in — I forgot what the clinical application was but it was a pharmaceutical approved back in the eighties and then was basically taken off the market similar to around the same time — interestingly enough, Biden was the one who spearheaded getting steroids scheduled essentially.”
“Biden did?” asks Rogan.
“Yeah, he was at the forefront of pushing for the banning of them or scheduling,” said Derek MPMD.
“If I don’t have muscle nobody has muscles!” jokes Rogan.
Derek added that Biden is often blamed in the bodybuilding community for the lack of steroid refinement over the years.
“He’s blamed often by the bodybuilding community for the lack of refinement in anabolic steroids because now we’re stuck with the same drugs we’ve been using since like the eighties.”
Conversely, other drug categories, including the popular GLP-1 medications like Ozempic, have been ‘refined’ so that the side effects are less problematic.
“Every drug category has had significant refinements over the years to make them more effective, less side effect ridden, etc, like GLP-1 medications for example, highly effective and constantly being like lightning through pipelines to create really really refined ones that are less problematic.”
After Olympic sprinter Ben Johnson fessed up to using steroids in the eighties, it complicated matters, leading to a public outcry for reform.
“With steroids, that was being done in the eighties, and then once there was the Ben Johnson debacle, I believe it was, that brought all this public outcry. Getting positive for winstrol I think, and people were like is this just going to become like a fuckin’ chemical warfare essentially in the Olympics, and whoever is doped the most is going to win and people are freaking out,” Derek MPMD shared.
Derek MPMD says this caused President Biden to have steroids and testosterone scheduled as controlled substances.
“The response was Biden getting, including testosterone, scheduled,” explains Derek MPMD.
This wasn’t the first time steroids and trenbolone use has come under fire. Famous powerfliter Larry Wheels has reflected on his experiences with the compound and stressed that his life was a ‘living hell’ while taking it. He called trenbolone the ‘worst’ steroid and warned of potential side effects like acne, mood swings, and insomnia.
Trenbolone’s notorious reputation and its ties to violent behavior, coupled with President Biden’s role in reshaping steroid laws, paint a complex picture of performance-enhancing drugs in sports. Rogan and Derek MPMD’s insights into steroid use are welcome as it remains a pertinent issue in today’s society.
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