THSPA Lindale Invitational 2015
Meet Statistics
123
Total Entries
123
Athletes
11
Weight Classes
9.8%
Bomb-out Rate
285.9
Avg Wilks
286.4
Avg DOTS
Podium: Best Lifters by DOTS
Top three men and women by DOTS, a score that adjusts each total for bodyweight so you can compare lifters across weight classes.
Men
| # | Lifter | Total | DOTS |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 |
Tavion Hall 82.1 kg · Boys
|
623.7 kg | 424.99 |
| 2 |
James Seekford 89.8 kg · Boys
|
605.6 kg | 406.05 |
| 3 |
Anthony Howard 99.7 kg · Boys
|
614.6 kg | 389.46 |
Results
| Place | Name | Class | BW | Squat | Bench | Deadlift | Total | DOTS | Wilks |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 |
Taner Renfro
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 102.2 kg | 272.2 kg | 136.1 kg | 226.8 kg | 635.0 kg | 387.34 | 383.29 |
| 1 |
Tavion Hall
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 81.7 kg | 240.4 kg | 138.4 kg | 244.9 kg | 623.7 kg | 424.99 | 420.44 |
| 1 |
Jake Allen
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 120.7 kg | 242.7 kg | 147.4 kg | 226.8 kg | 616.9 kg | 353.64 | 354.22 |
| 1 |
Anthony Howard
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 93.8 kg | 226.8 kg | 136.1 kg | 251.7 kg | 614.6 kg | 389.46 | 384.55 |
| 1 |
James Seekford
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 84.0 kg | 238.1 kg | 158.8 kg | 208.7 kg | 605.6 kg | 406.05 | 401.35 |
| 1 |
Dre Alex
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 145.8 kg | 206.4 kg | 158.8 kg | 183.7 kg | 548.9 kg | 297.44 | 304.90 |
| 1 |
Ryan Taylor
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 75.1 kg | 197.3 kg | 113.4 kg | 199.6 kg | 510.3 kg | 365.88 | 363.38 |
| 1 |
Sean Pobst
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 67.0 kg | 174.6 kg | 97.5 kg | 208.7 kg | 480.8 kg | 372.79 | 373.16 |
| 1 |
Miguel Hernandez
Boys
|
55.7 kg | 55.7 kg | 163.3 kg | 86.2 kg | 158.8 kg | 408.2 kg | 367.13 | 373.59 |
| 1 |
Riley Slocum
Boys
|
59.8 kg | 56.9 kg | 138.4 kg | 81.7 kg | 158.8 kg | 378.8 kg | 334.41 | 339.62 |
| 1 |
Jose Mancia
Boys
|
51.7 kg | 45.8 kg | 83.9 kg | 52.2 kg | 102.1 kg | 238.1 kg | 259.19 | 268.90 |
| 2 |
Corey Brister
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 123.4 kg | 226.8 kg | 136.1 kg | 217.7 kg | 580.6 kg | 330.43 | 331.75 |
| 2 |
Tyler Segrest
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 104.3 kg | 215.5 kg | 129.3 kg | 226.8 kg | 571.5 kg | 345.58 | 342.29 |
| 2 |
Kerrian Goree
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 97.8 kg | 215.5 kg | 142.9 kg | 204.1 kg | 562.5 kg | 349.62 | 345.46 |
| 2 |
Brandon Melton
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 89.4 kg | 226.8 kg | 122.5 kg | 208.7 kg | 557.9 kg | 362.06 | 357.48 |
| 2 |
Brandon Brumbelow
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 127.6 kg | 217.7 kg | 133.8 kg | 195.0 kg | 546.6 kg | 307.77 | 310.19 |
| 2 |
Michael Hansen
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 78.5 kg | 206.4 kg | 120.2 kg | 204.1 kg | 530.7 kg | 370.18 | 366.82 |
| 2 |
Brett Martin
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 71.7 kg | 172.4 kg | 99.8 kg | 192.8 kg | 464.9 kg | 343.65 | 342.28 |
| 2 |
Cesar Colunga
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 60.4 kg | 147.4 kg | 74.8 kg | 174.6 kg | 396.9 kg | 333.09 | 336.36 |
| 2 |
Jonathan Alvarez
Boys
|
55.7 kg | 54.9 kg | 129.3 kg | 65.8 kg | 124.7 kg | 319.8 kg | 291.41 | 296.97 |
| 2 |
Ernan Medrano
Boys
|
59.8 kg | 56.6 kg | 97.5 kg | 97.5 kg | 108.9 kg | 303.9 kg | 269.45 | 273.76 |
| 3 |
Alunte Jackson
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 162.5 kg | 201.9 kg | 108.9 kg | 226.8 kg | 537.5 kg | 283.02 | 293.99 |
| 3 |
JW McFarland
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 117.8 kg | 220.0 kg | 127.0 kg | 183.7 kg | 530.7 kg | 306.66 | 306.44 |
| 3 |
Eli Britt
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 94.6 kg | 226.8 kg | 117.9 kg | 181.4 kg | 526.2 kg | 332.04 | 327.89 |
| 3 |
Reece Clark
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 105.9 kg | 222.3 kg | 99.8 kg | 190.5 kg | 512.6 kg | 308.10 | 305.41 |
| 3 |
Quay Ward
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 80.7 kg | 195.0 kg | 124.7 kg | 183.7 kg | 503.5 kg | 345.31 | 341.76 |
| 3 |
Tyler Pullum
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 72.0 kg | 165.6 kg | 111.1 kg | 183.7 kg | 460.4 kg | 339.16 | 337.70 |
| 3 |
Coltin Morrison
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 84.1 kg | 161.0 kg | 99.8 kg | 181.4 kg | 442.3 kg | 296.38 | 292.93 |
| 3 |
Richard Torrelli
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 64.6 kg | 124.7 kg | 97.5 kg | 165.6 kg | 387.8 kg | 308.83 | 310.04 |
| 3 |
Jose Castillo
Boys
|
55.7 kg | 54.9 kg | 115.7 kg | 74.8 kg | 127.0 kg | 317.5 kg | 289.34 | 294.87 |
| 4 |
Malik Clark
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 128.4 kg | 204.1 kg | 124.7 kg | 197.3 kg | 526.2 kg | 295.76 | 298.29 |
| 4 |
Alex Gamez
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 94.4 kg | 204.1 kg | 115.7 kg | 204.1 kg | 523.9 kg | 330.91 | 326.76 |
| 4 |
Cameron Fleming
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 124.7 kg | 222.3 kg | 111.1 kg | 181.4 kg | 514.8 kg | 291.98 | 293.50 |
| 4 |
Chris Bradford
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 77.2 kg | 183.7 kg | 113.4 kg | 204.1 kg | 501.2 kg | 353.12 | 350.18 |
| 4 |
Mitchell Graham
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 109.8 kg | 174.6 kg | 127.0 kg | 176.9 kg | 478.5 kg | 283.65 | 281.80 |
| 4 |
Charles Willman
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 74.8 kg | 165.6 kg | 124.7 kg | 165.6 kg | 455.9 kg | 327.49 | 325.31 |
| 4 |
Noah Smith
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 88.4 kg | 161.0 kg | 106.6 kg | 172.4 kg | 440.0 kg | 287.17 | 283.57 |
| 4 |
Cody Bargerhuff
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 65.8 kg | 156.5 kg | 81.7 kg | 145.2 kg | 383.3 kg | 301.10 | 301.82 |
| 4 |
Colton Lewis
Boys
|
55.7 kg | 53.9 kg | 99.8 kg | 77.1 kg | 113.4 kg | 290.3 kg | 268.95 | 274.58 |
| 5 |
Taylor Sipes
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 95.3 kg | 204.1 kg | 115.7 kg | 204.1 kg | 523.9 kg | 329.59 | 325.49 |
| 5 |
Matt Carr
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 151.1 kg | 192.8 kg | 133.8 kg | 181.4 kg | 508.0 kg | 272.68 | 280.81 |
| 5 |
Javier Utrera
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 111.0 kg | 204.1 kg | 111.1 kg | 165.6 kg | 480.8 kg | 283.85 | 282.22 |
| 5 |
Kyle Alexander
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 82.1 kg | 199.6 kg | 93.0 kg | 174.6 kg | 467.2 kg | 317.35 | 313.90 |
| 5 |
Ian Blench
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 102.7 kg | 201.9 kg | 95.3 kg | 163.3 kg | 460.4 kg | 280.21 | 277.34 |
| 5 |
Hayden Dees
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 74.8 kg | 165.6 kg | 90.7 kg | 181.4 kg | 437.7 kg | 314.46 | 312.37 |
| 5 |
Guillermo Vasquez
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 82.5 kg | 179.2 kg | 93.0 kg | 165.6 kg | 437.7 kg | 296.59 | 293.32 |
| 5 |
Mah Scruggs
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 66.0 kg | 129.3 kg | 99.8 kg | 152.0 kg | 381.0 kg | 298.71 | 299.36 |
| 5 |
Preston Davis
Boys
|
55.7 kg | 55.8 kg | 83.9 kg | 61.2 kg | 136.1 kg | 281.2 kg | 252.55 | 256.96 |
| 6 |
Eli Crawford
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 97.0 kg | 190.5 kg | 104.3 kg | 204.1 kg | 499.0 kg | 311.31 | 307.55 |
| 6 |
Ernesto Lopez
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 117.1 kg | 204.1 kg | 108.9 kg | 167.8 kg | 480.8 kg | 278.41 | 278.06 |
| 6 |
Gaylon Gradick
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 145.5 kg | 181.4 kg | 113.4 kg | 181.4 kg | 476.3 kg | 258.23 | 264.65 |
| 6 |
Brandon Foster
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 103.8 kg | 174.6 kg | 122.5 kg | 156.5 kg | 453.6 kg | 274.86 | 272.18 |
| 6 |
Jairus Aguilar
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 83.4 kg | 174.6 kg | 83.9 kg | 170.1 kg | 428.6 kg | 288.65 | 285.37 |
| 6 |
Saul Rios
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 74.8 kg | 165.6 kg | 90.7 kg | 170.1 kg | 426.4 kg | 306.31 | 304.27 |
| 6 |
Donovan Yeley
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 76.3 kg | 172.4 kg | 95.3 kg | 158.8 kg | 426.4 kg | 302.61 | 300.28 |
| 6 |
Michael Zuniga
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 63.3 kg | 124.7 kg | 74.8 kg | 170.1 kg | 369.7 kg | 298.90 | 300.58 |
| 6 |
Jordan Fletcher
Boys
|
55.7 kg | 53.0 kg | 93.0 kg | 49.9 kg | 104.3 kg | 247.2 kg | 232.66 | 237.92 |
| 7 |
David Mitchell-Blaylock
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 91.6 kg | 174.6 kg | 115.7 kg | 183.7 kg | 474.0 kg | 303.77 | 299.90 |
| 7 |
Manuale Saavedra
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 137.4 kg | 199.6 kg | 108.9 kg | 156.5 kg | 464.9 kg | 256.17 | 260.56 |
| 7 |
Alex Andrews
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 113.9 kg | 183.7 kg | 93.0 kg | 172.4 kg | 449.1 kg | 262.55 | 261.58 |
| 7 |
Thomas Brooks
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 85.2 kg | 174.6 kg | 97.5 kg | 149.7 kg | 421.8 kg | 280.73 | 277.38 |
| 7 |
Layton Pace
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 107.1 kg | 165.6 kg | 88.5 kg | 165.6 kg | 419.6 kg | 251.02 | 249.00 |
| 7 |
Pj Lewis
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 69.6 kg | 156.5 kg | 79.4 kg | 181.4 kg | 417.3 kg | 314.77 | 314.17 |
| 7 |
Josh Robertson
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 81.0 kg | 156.5 kg | 93.0 kg | 156.5 kg | 406.0 kg | 277.89 | 274.99 |
| 7 |
Kaleb Leonard
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 67.0 kg | 129.3 kg | 88.5 kg | 152.0 kg | 369.7 kg | 286.63 | 286.91 |
| 8 |
Joe Wright
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 98.9 kg | 179.2 kg | 111.1 kg | 181.4 kg | 471.7 kg | 291.79 | 288.41 |
| 8 |
Isaiah Neal
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 83.2 kg | 165.6 kg | 95.3 kg | 156.5 kg | 417.3 kg | 281.35 | 278.17 |
| 8 |
Cameron Riess
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 74.0 kg | 170.1 kg | 83.9 kg | 158.8 kg | 412.8 kg | 298.62 | 296.83 |
| 8 |
Christian Ingram
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 113.9 kg | 154.2 kg | 88.5 kg | 170.1 kg | 412.8 kg | 241.40 | 240.49 |
| 8 |
Jaylon White
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 213.2 kg | 156.5 kg | 104.3 kg | 147.4 kg | 408.2 kg | 202.33 | 216.98 |
| 8 |
Ben McFadden
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 82.1 kg | 161.0 kg | 79.4 kg | 158.8 kg | 399.2 kg | 271.14 | 268.18 |
| 8 |
Cory Young
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 101.6 kg | 158.8 kg | 74.8 kg | 147.4 kg | 381.0 kg | 232.94 | 230.45 |
| 8 |
Sergio Camacho
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 63.3 kg | 133.8 kg | 77.1 kg | 154.2 kg | 365.1 kg | 295.23 | 296.89 |
| 9 |
Matthew Davidson
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 99.9 kg | 183.7 kg | 93.0 kg | 192.8 kg | 469.5 kg | 289.12 | 285.85 |
| 9 |
Logan Delarso
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 121.9 kg | 170.1 kg | 90.7 kg | 149.7 kg | 410.5 kg | 234.52 | 235.16 |
| 9 |
Naim Diego
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 70.9 kg | 152.0 kg | 72.6 kg | 183.7 kg | 408.2 kg | 304.11 | 303.13 |
| 9 |
Mose Jeffery
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 130.2 kg | 174.6 kg | 79.4 kg | 152.0 kg | 406.0 kg | 227.22 | 229.56 |
| 9 |
Joseu Pena
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 81.6 kg | 156.5 kg | 79.4 kg | 156.5 kg | 392.4 kg | 267.53 | 264.67 |
| 9 |
Dustin Achley
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 83.1 kg | 147.4 kg | 77.1 kg | 158.8 kg | 383.3 kg | 258.58 | 255.66 |
| 9 |
Jason White
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 100.3 kg | 136.1 kg | 93.0 kg | 145.2 kg | 374.2 kg | 230.00 | 227.44 |
| 9 |
Montana Meador
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 63.5 kg | 136.1 kg | 72.6 kg | 142.9 kg | 351.5 kg | 283.60 | 285.12 |
| 10 |
Grayson Burns
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 95.7 kg | 183.7 kg | 102.1 kg | 172.4 kg | 458.1 kg | 287.57 | 284.02 |
| 10 |
Jeremy Gleen
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 73.6 kg | 165.6 kg | 83.9 kg | 152.0 kg | 401.4 kg | 291.60 | 289.96 |
| 10 |
John Campbell
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 123.3 kg | 161.0 kg | 83.9 kg | 147.4 kg | 392.4 kg | 223.35 | 224.22 |
| 10 |
Cole Brumbelow
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 140.1 kg | 149.7 kg | 86.2 kg | 154.2 kg | 390.1 kg | 213.75 | 217.97 |
| 10 |
Clayton Hawley
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 77.6 kg | 145.2 kg | 99.8 kg | 142.9 kg | 387.8 kg | 272.45 | 270.12 |
| 10 |
Jesse Head
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 89.8 kg | 149.7 kg | 74.8 kg | 156.5 kg | 381.0 kg | 246.63 | 243.50 |
| 10 |
Z Bryant
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 103.7 kg | 136.1 kg | 81.7 kg | 140.6 kg | 358.3 kg | 217.22 | 215.09 |
| 10 |
Maliq Owens
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 67.1 kg | 133.8 kg | 79.4 kg | 129.3 kg | 342.5 kg | 265.00 | 265.21 |
| 11 |
Billy Pritchett
Boys
|
109.7 kg | 99.9 kg | 170.1 kg | 79.4 kg | 186.0 kg | 435.5 kg | 268.17 | 265.14 |
| 11 |
Jacob Waggoner
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 69.0 kg | 145.2 kg | 74.8 kg | 170.1 kg | 390.1 kg | 296.13 | 295.76 |
| 11 |
Norris English
Boys
|
124.7+ kg | 135.1 kg | 138.4 kg | 81.7 kg | 147.4 kg | 367.4 kg | 203.41 | 206.45 |
| 11 |
Noeh Soils
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 80.4 kg | 131.5 kg | 72.6 kg | 149.7 kg | 353.8 kg | 243.28 | 240.82 |
| 11 |
Kc White
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 82.9 kg | 131.5 kg | 72.6 kg | 145.2 kg | 349.3 kg | 235.92 | 233.27 |
| 11 |
Wrangler Welch
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 62.3 kg | 124.7 kg | 68.0 kg | 145.2 kg | 337.9 kg | 276.65 | 278.59 |
| 11 |
Abram Garcia
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 112.8 kg | 81.7 kg | 61.2 kg | 113.4 kg | 256.3 kg | 150.40 | 149.72 |
| 12 |
Austin Rider
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 95.0 kg | 165.6 kg | 99.8 kg | 156.5 kg | 421.8 kg | 265.73 | 262.42 |
| 12 |
Vincent Morales
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 68.2 kg | 136.1 kg | 65.8 kg | 163.3 kg | 365.1 kg | 279.29 | 279.16 |
| 12 |
Ramiro Martinez
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 76.4 kg | 129.3 kg | 95.3 kg | 124.7 kg | 349.3 kg | 247.70 | 245.78 |
| 12 |
C Pruitt
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 63.0 kg | 111.1 kg | 74.8 kg | 113.4 kg | 299.4 kg | 243.13 | 244.61 |
| 13 |
Brandon Osteen
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 94.3 kg | 156.5 kg | 88.5 kg | 165.6 kg | 410.5 kg | 259.51 | 256.26 |
| 13 |
Tristan Clark
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 69.0 kg | 129.3 kg | 102.1 kg | 124.7 kg | 356.1 kg | 270.06 | 269.69 |
| 13 |
Corey Maxfield
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 79.6 kg | 142.9 kg | 70.3 kg | 136.1 kg | 349.3 kg | 241.62 | 239.28 |
| 13 |
Moses Garcia
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 64.4 kg | 68.0 kg | 61.2 kg | 102.1 kg | 231.3 kg | 184.60 | 185.37 |
| 14 |
Jayson Solomon
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 96.4 kg | 161.0 kg | 83.9 kg | 149.7 kg | 394.6 kg | 246.86 | 243.85 |
| 14 |
Jose Cerda
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 71.3 kg | 129.3 kg | 83.9 kg | 131.5 kg | 344.7 kg | 255.70 | 254.77 |
| 14 |
Brody Mullican
Boys
|
82.1 kg | 77.5 kg | 147.4 kg | 34.0 kg | 142.9 kg | 324.3 kg | 228.00 | 226.06 |
| 15 |
William Craver
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 99.2 kg | 131.5 kg | 74.8 kg | 138.4 kg | 344.7 kg | 212.97 | 210.51 |
| 15 |
Keenan Lister
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 71.8 kg | 124.7 kg | 81.7 kg | 136.1 kg | 342.5 kg | 252.91 | 251.89 |
| 16 |
Isiah Richardson
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 70.9 kg | 124.7 kg | 72.6 kg | 136.1 kg | 333.4 kg | 248.14 | 247.33 |
| 16 |
Brett Howe
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 92.0 kg | 111.1 kg | 70.3 kg | 142.9 kg | 324.3 kg | 207.44 | 204.81 |
| DQ |
Kim Moore
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 68.2 kg | 115.7 kg | - | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Bailey Kurtz
Boys
|
55.7 kg | 53.6 kg | - | - | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Calvin Olsen
Boys
|
74.8 kg | 74.4 kg | - | - | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Cade Duvak
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 61.8 kg | 124.7 kg | - | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Jose Guajardo
Boys
|
67.1 kg | 62.7 kg | - | - | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Caleb Hallford
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 96.3 kg | - | - | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Andrew Brooks
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 93.6 kg | 174.6 kg | - | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Armando Cortes
Boys
|
99.7 kg | 90.3 kg | - | - | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Corando Hale
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 87.5 kg | 233.6 kg | - | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Cody Godwin
Boys
|
89.8 kg | 82.9 kg | 142.9 kg | - | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Raveen Garcia
Boys
|
124.7 kg | 112.9 kg | 147.4 kg | 72.6 kg | - | DQ | - | - |
| DQ |
Dustin Crabtree
Boys
|
55.7 kg | 52.7 kg | - | - | - | DQ | - | - |
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Lindale Invitational 2015 was held on January 10, 2015 in TX, USA by the THSPA federation, featuring 123 athletes across 11 weight classes. View more meets from THSPA.
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